From songadmin at canoemail.com Sun Nov 1 18:20:35 2009 From: songadmin at canoemail.com (songadmin at canoemail.com) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:20:35 -0800 Subject: [song-circle] Nov 6 Maura Volante Message-ID: Hi Everybody Song Circle this Friday November 6, 2009 at the home of Maura Volante, 184 Ethel Street, upstairs (side door off the driveway). Potluck dinner around 6:30 Singing after dinner, with the usual break for coffee, tea and desserts Directions: From jpolowin at hotmail.com Sun Nov 8 22:41:24 2009 From: jpolowin at hotmail.com (Joel Polowin) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:41:24 +0000 Subject: [song-circle] FW: Recent songs Message-ID: If anyone's interested, I've posted the two songs that I sang last Friday evening. "SUV Driver": http://www3.sympatico.ca/jpolowin/filkstuf/SUV_driv.htm "Uncanny Valley": http://www3.sympatico.ca/jpolowin/filkstuf/uncanny.htm I'd also like to call your attention to a very nice disaster song written by Brooke Lunderville (a friend of mine), "The Wreck of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster". It won last year's Pegasus Award for "Best Disaster Song", and this year's award for "Best Filk Song". Lyrics and a recording are here: http://catfish.dhs.org/~happyfish/filk/wreckcrashetc.html . I really don't think I could perform it well enough to do it justice, especially without accompaniment. (Also, Heather Dale and Ben Deschamps were this year's "Best Performer" Pegasus winners.) Joel _________________________________________________________________ Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819 From dpbaril at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 9 00:12:45 2009 From: dpbaril at sympatico.ca (David Baril) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:12:45 -0500 Subject: [song-circle] Trad Sing - Sunday, 15 Nov 2009, 2 - 4 p.m. - Barley Mow Pub in Almonte Message-ID: [re-sending in plain text format in case HTML version doesn't get through] The next Almonte Traditional Song session is Sunday, Nov 15th at the Barley Mow pub. Almonte Trad Sing Sunday, 15 Nov 09 2 ? 4 p.m. Barley Mow Pub 79 Little Bridge Street Almonte, ON 613-256-5669 http://tinyurl.com/BarleyMow-Map Notes from the May and October sessions are appended below. ? ? Cheers, David ? -------------------------------- Session Notes for Sunday, October 18th, 2009 Barley Mow Participants: Rodney Norman, Dale Morland, Susan Morland, Carl Stieren, David Baril. Songs: Lead by Song Title David Bright Shining Morning Rodney Day Trip to Bangor David The Times They are a Changin? Dale The Tinker Carl Pirate Jenny (Kurt Weil / Berold Brecht ? in German) Rodney Van Diemens Land David The Greenland Whale Fishery Dale Frobisher Bay Carl Keep your eyes on the prize / Hold on Rodney Virginie David Nelson?s Blood Dale John Brown?s Body Carl/Dale The Black Fly Song Rodney Oak, Ash & Thorn David Foggy Dew Dale The Essequibo River Carl Green Grow the Rushes Oh Rodney Drift from the Land Rodney Oak, Ash and Thorn Rodney (request) Albert and the Lion (recitation) David Bold Riley Dale Lookout Hill Carl Rolling Down to Old Maui Rodney The Folker (parody of The Boxer) ? ------------------------------------------------------? Session Notes for Sunday, May 17th, 2009 JR?s Downstairs Pub Participants: Neville Miller, Gail Anglin, Dale Morland, Rob Rogers , Sue McCarthy, Richard McCarthy , CaroleYeaman, Kristi Westman, Phil Ibbitson, Shirley Wildenbeest, Diane Martin, David Baril. Songs: Lead by Song Title Neville Poverty, Poverty, Knock Gail Eerie Canal Dale Rambler in the Spring Rob The Black Crow Sue Do You Love an Apple Diane Griogal Cridhe David The Alabama Carole The Cruel Sister Rodney Hot Asphalt Neville Final Trawl Gail/Neville Row On Dale South Australia Rob The Coal Town Road Shirley Tyree Love Song Sue Cod Liver Oil Diane The Briar And the Rose David The Shoals of Herring Carole Wreck of the Old 97 Rodney Chapeau Boys Neville Horn of the Hunter Gail By the Rivers of Babylon Dale Lookout Hill Rob Peggy Gordon Phil The Bonnie Ship Diamond Sue Sarah Diane Paistin Fionn David Sammy?s Bar Carole Let No Man Steal Your Thyme Rodney Dalesman's Litany Neville Bright Morning Star ? From ag384fm at fastmail.fm Mon Nov 9 10:29:09 2009 From: ag384fm at fastmail.fm (William R Watt) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:29:09 -0500 Subject: [song-circle] FW: Recent songs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1257780549.22959.1344304277@webmail.messagingengine.com> From ag384fm at fastmail.fm Mon Nov 9 10:31:44 2009 From: ag384fm at fastmail.fm (William R Watt) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:31:44 -0500 Subject: [song-circle] FW: Recent songs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1257780704.23283.1344304757@webmail.messagingengine.com> Ahhh, make that http://seanmcguire.com/songbook.php?id=117 WRW On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:41:24 +0000, "Joel Polowin" said: > > If anyone's interested, I've posted the two songs that I sang > last Friday evening. > > "SUV Driver": > http://www3.sympatico.ca/jpolowin/filkstuf/SUV_driv.htm > > "Uncanny Valley": > http://www3.sympatico.ca/jpolowin/filkstuf/uncanny.htm > > I'd also like to call your attention to a very nice disaster > song written by Brooke Lunderville (a friend of mine), "The Wreck > of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster". It won last year's > Pegasus Award for "Best Disaster Song", and this year's award for > "Best Filk Song". Lyrics and a recording are here: > http://catfish.dhs.org/~happyfish/filk/wreckcrashetc.html . I > really don't think I could perform it well enough to do it > justice, especially without accompaniment. > > (Also, Heather Dale and Ben Deschamps were this year's "Best > Performer" Pegasus winners.) > > Joel > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 > before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819 > _______________________________________________ > song-circle mailing list > song-circle at lists.ifdo.ca > http://ifdo.pugmarks.com/mailman/listinfo/song-circle -- William R Watt ag384fm at fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own From ag384fm at fastmail.fm Mon Nov 9 10:35:32 2009 From: ag384fm at fastmail.fm (William R Watt) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:35:32 -0500 Subject: [song-circle] FW: Recent songs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1257780932.23759.1344305413@webmail.messagingengine.com> OK, one last try ... http://seananmcguire.com/songbook.php?id=117 WRW On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:41:24 +0000, "Joel Polowin" said: > > If anyone's interested, I've posted the two songs that I sang > last Friday evening. > > "SUV Driver": > http://www3.sympatico.ca/jpolowin/filkstuf/SUV_driv.htm > > "Uncanny Valley": > http://www3.sympatico.ca/jpolowin/filkstuf/uncanny.htm > > I'd also like to call your attention to a very nice disaster > song written by Brooke Lunderville (a friend of mine), "The Wreck > of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster". It won last year's > Pegasus Award for "Best Disaster Song", and this year's award for > "Best Filk Song". Lyrics and a recording are here: > http://catfish.dhs.org/~happyfish/filk/wreckcrashetc.html . I > really don't think I could perform it well enough to do it > justice, especially without accompaniment. > > (Also, Heather Dale and Ben Deschamps were this year's "Best > Performer" Pegasus winners.) > > Joel > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 > before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819 > _______________________________________________ > song-circle mailing list > song-circle at lists.ifdo.ca > http://ifdo.pugmarks.com/mailman/listinfo/song-circle -- William R Watt ag384fm at fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin From jpolowin at hotmail.com Mon Nov 9 11:13:23 2009 From: jpolowin at hotmail.com (Joel Polowin) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:13:23 +0000 Subject: [song-circle] FW: Recent songs In-Reply-To: <1257780932.23759.1344305413@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: Message-ID: <1257780932.23759.1344305413 at webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 William R Watt wrote: > OK=2C one last try ... http://seananmcguire.com/songbook.php?id=3D117 Oh=2C definitely -- Seanan's another friend=2C and a frighteningly talented singer/songwriter and author.=A0 Her first novel=2C _Rosemary and Rue_=2C w= as published a couple of months ago=2C and it's pretty good urban fantasy=3B the sequel is due out in another few months.=A0 She's also got a series of horror novels in the works=2C to be published under a pen name. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you=92re up to on= Facebook. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9691816= From rthurgood at sympatico.ca Mon Nov 9 16:22:24 2009 From: rthurgood at sympatico.ca (rthurgood at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:22:24 +0000 Subject: [song-circle] "The Wreck of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joel, thanks for the song about "The Wreck of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster". There's nothing like a satirical song that includes both sailing and mining disasters to give a belly laugh to someone like me, from a small community (near Springhill, in fact), many of whose men were miners or fishermen. To make it even more humorous, I lost a number of my own relatives at sea, and, although my uncles and cousin survived the mines, some of their friends died below ground. My cousin, slightly older than me and retired, is now dying from cancer caused by conditions in the mines, and since cancer made it into the song too, he should really enjoy "The Wreck." When we get together, there's nothing my family likes more than laughing at the heartfelt songs about disasters, made by the loved ones of the dead and still sung in communities where these disasters took place. These songs are especially funny when they're real "folk songs," composed by uneducated rural people without the benefit of a university education. Yeah, nothing we like more than an urban folkie getting a laugh at our sorrow. By the way, I have a tape of songs made by my Newfoundland-outport friends Jean and Michelle after their father and brother died while fishing. Dealing with the emotions surrounding this tragedy started Jeannie writing songs. Perhaps I could send a copy to your friend Brooke to give her further fodder for her wit. Ranald > From: jpolowin at hotmail.com > To: song-circle at lists.ifdo.pugmarks.com > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:41:24 +0000 > Subject: [song-circle] FW: Recent songs > > > If anyone's interested, I've posted the two songs that I sang > last Friday evening. > > "SUV Driver": > http://www3.sympatico.ca/jpolowin/filkstuf/SUV_driv.htm > > "Uncanny Valley": > http://www3.sympatico.ca/jpolowin/filkstuf/uncanny.htm > > I'd also like to call your attention to a very nice disaster > song written by Brooke Lunderville (a friend of mine), "The Wreck > of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster". It won last year's > Pegasus Award for "Best Disaster Song", and this year's award for > "Best Filk Song". Lyrics and a recording are here: > http://catfish.dhs.org/~happyfish/filk/wreckcrashetc.html . I > really don't think I could perform it well enough to do it > justice, especially without accompaniment. > > (Also, Heather Dale and Ben Deschamps were this year's "Best > Performer" Pegasus winners.) > > Joel > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691819 > _______________________________________________ > song-circle mailing list > song-circle at lists.ifdo.ca > http://ifdo.pugmarks.com/mailman/listinfo/song-circle From jpolowin at hotmail.com Tue Nov 10 09:36:18 2009 From: jpolowin at hotmail.com (Joel Polowin) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:36:18 +0000 Subject: [song-circle] "The Wreck of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Ranald wrote: > Joel=2C thanks for the song about "The Wreck of the Crash of the > Easthill Mining Disaster". There's nothing like a satirical song > that includes both sailing and mining disasters to give a belly > laugh to someone like me=2C from a small community (near Springhill=2C > in fact)=2C many of whose men were miners or fishermen. To make it > even more humorous=2C I lost a number of my own relatives at sea=2C > and=2C although my uncles and cousin survived the mines=2C some of > their friends died below ground. My cousin=2C slightly older than > me and retired=2C is now dying from cancer caused by conditions in > the mines=2C and since cancer made it into the song too=2C he should > really enjoy "The Wreck." > > When we get together=2C there's nothing my family likes more than > laughing at the heartfelt songs about disasters=2C made by the loved > ones of the dead and still sung in communities where these disasters > took place. These songs are especially funny when they're real "folk > songs=2C" composed by uneducated rural people without the benefit of > a university education. Yeah=2C nothing we like more than an urban > folkie getting a laugh at our sorrow. By the way=2C I have a tape of > songs made by my Newfoundland-outport friends Jean and Michelle after > their father and brother died while fishing. Dealing with the emotions > surrounding this tragedy started Jeannie writing songs. Perhaps I > could send a copy to your friend Brooke to give her further fodder > for her wit. Ranald=2C dark humour comes from many places.=A0 I don't know what inspired Brooke to write that song.=A0 You snark about her being an "urban folkie"=2C and yes=2C she's currently living in Vancouver=2C but I don't know where she grew up.=A0 As for comparing her university education to the "uneducated people"... what does that have to do with anything? Eric Bogle has written a number of moving serious songs.=A0 He's also written things like "Nobody's Moggy Now"=2C an elegy to a dead cat that was hit by a truck and which he found by the side of the road. Some people enjoy that song immensely=3B others -- particularly those who've lost pets themselves in that way -- can't stand it.=A0 But most of the latter don't say that he shouldn't have written it or that it shouldn't be sung.=A0 They avoid listening to it.=A0 Some will leave the room temporarily if someone starts singing it.=A0 But they accept that for others=2C who do not have such a personal connection with the subject=2C the song is fun. I think it's likely that Brooke's song was a reaction to her hearing a long series of serious disaster songs in a song circle somewhere=2C with nobody able to break the mood=3B that would have suggested the grotesque concatenation of events.=A0 As I said=2C I don't know.=A0 I am quite certain that it wasn't intended to poke fun at people who've suffered from such events. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before = Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9691819= From maura at mauravolante.ca Tue Nov 10 12:13:56 2009 From: maura at mauravolante.ca (Maura Volante) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:13:56 -0500 Subject: [song-circle] "The Wreck of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Joel and Ranald, et al, This brings to mind a larger idea, about our use of any kind of folk songs in a situation that is removed from the context, such as a songcircle far from these places. Do we, by removing them from the context, then desacralize them in some way and leave them vulnerable to the response of those who have heard one too many of them in this decontextualized way? This is not to suggest that we stop singing songs of people far away in time, place and circumstances, only that we carry in our singing of them a sense of their original purpose, in the social circumstances of that time and place. Maura _____________________ Maura Volante www.mauravolante.ca maura at mauravolante.ca 613.277.9208 On 10-Nov-09, at 9:36 AM, Joel Polowin wrote: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > Ranald wrote: > >> Joel=2C thanks for the song about "The Wreck of the Crash of the >> Easthill Mining Disaster". There's nothing like a satirical song >> that includes both sailing and mining disasters to give a belly >> laugh to someone like me=2C from a small community (near >> Springhill=2C >> in fact)=2C many of whose men were miners or fishermen. To make it >> even more humorous=2C I lost a number of my own relatives at sea=2C >> and=2C although my uncles and cousin survived the mines=2C some of >> their friends died below ground. My cousin=2C slightly older than >> me and retired=2C is now dying from cancer caused by conditions in >> the mines=2C and since cancer made it into the song too=2C he should >> really enjoy "The Wreck." >> >> When we get together=2C there's nothing my family likes more than >> laughing at the heartfelt songs about disasters=2C made by the loved >> ones of the dead and still sung in communities where these disasters >> took place. These songs are especially funny when they're real "folk >> songs=2C" composed by uneducated rural people without the benefit of >> a university education. Yeah=2C nothing we like more than an urban >> folkie getting a laugh at our sorrow. By the way=2C I have a tape of >> songs made by my Newfoundland-outport friends Jean and Michelle after >> their father and brother died while fishing. Dealing with the >> emotions >> surrounding this tragedy started Jeannie writing songs. Perhaps I >> could send a copy to your friend Brooke to give her further fodder >> for her wit. > > Ranald=2C dark humour comes from many places.=A0 I don't know what > inspired Brooke to write that song.=A0 You snark about her being an > "urban folkie"=2C and yes=2C she's currently living in Vancouver=2C > but I > don't know where she grew up.=A0 As for comparing her university > education to the "uneducated people"... what does that have to do > with anything? > > Eric Bogle has written a number of moving serious songs.=A0 He's also > written things like "Nobody's Moggy Now"=2C an elegy to a dead cat > that was hit by a truck and which he found by the side of the road. > Some people enjoy that song immensely=3B others -- particularly those > who've lost pets themselves in that way -- can't stand it.=A0 But most > of the latter don't say that he shouldn't have written it or that > it shouldn't be sung.=A0 They avoid listening to it.=A0 Some will > leave > the room temporarily if someone starts singing it.=A0 But they accept > that for others=2C who do not have such a personal connection with the > subject=2C the song is fun. > > I think it's likely that Brooke's song was a reaction to her hearing > a long series of serious disaster songs in a song circle somewhere=2C > with nobody able to break the mood=3B that would have suggested the > grotesque concatenation of events.=A0 As I said=2C I don't know.=A0 > I am > quite certain that it wasn't intended to poke fun at people who've > suffered from such events. > > =20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 > before = > Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9691819= > > _______________________________________________ > song-circle mailing list > song-circle at lists.ifdo.ca > http://ifdo.pugmarks.com/mailman/listinfo/song-circle > From rthurgood at sympatico.ca Tue Nov 10 12:38:25 2009 From: rthurgood at sympatico.ca (rthurgood at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:38:25 +0000 Subject: [song-circle] FW: "The Wreck of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To all those people on this mailing list, who never come to Song Circle but have strong opinions about how the regulars use the list: I'm addressing an important issue here and this will be my last word on the subject, so you needn't bother telling me that you don't want to hear any more about it. Furthermore, threatening to have your name taken off the Song Circle list means nothing to me. If you want it off, take it off. My apologies for the length of this e-mail, but the issues are of great concern. If you don't want to read this communication, delete it. Joel,I have a few points to make regarding your response: First, your communication below only testifies to the insensitivity I was addressing in my previous e-mail. Don't listen? Leave the room? You directed all of us to "The Wreck of The Crash of The Easthill Mining Disaster." How about at the next Song Circle if I sing a few funny songs about the Holocaust, breast cancer, AIDS, rape, or the Fort Hood massacre? Anyone who doesn't like these songs can not listen or leave the room (always an easy option at Song Circles). And if you don't like my dark humour, I'll consider that to be your problem, so don't complain to me. Second, as Maura can testify, I'm no stranger to dark humour. There's not a lot that's sacred to me -- death, disease, suffering, human misery -- I can joke about it. However, I try to gauge my setting and audience. Dark humour works best among peers dealing with the same issue. I worked in a bottling plant, where bottles exploded regularly -- I still have a scar. We workers used to laugh uproariously about how, when they get too scarred, men on the line must have been moved to other floors where they won't scare new workers. There are plenty of dark jokes told among women, minority groups, and people in dangerous occupations like sailing, mining, and the military, that they wouldn't find funny if I told them them. Third, being urban and educated has everything to do with it when you're satirizing the song traditions of mainly rural or small-town working people with little education. I've heard educated "folkies" sneer at the unsophisticated poetics of folk song and folk poetry, but I have yet to hear anyone joking about the elite artistic responses to 9/11. You and your friends are, by and large, outsiders to the tradition you're satirizing. Brooke may, as you say, be reacting to a series of disaster songs at a Song Circle, but, as I said before, these ballads are mainly "heartfelt songs about disasters, made by the loved ones of the dead and still sung in communities where these disasters took place" (Peggie Seeger's "Springhill Mining Disaster", while a fine song, is an exception). I've heard people From Gabarus, Cape Breton and Belloram, Newfoundland sing "The Wreck of The John Harvey," about a Belloram ship that was wrecked off Gabarus. The poetry isn't great, but believe me no singer was laughing about "brave young Foote", who, in frigid waters, swam ashore with a rope, then died after saving his fellow sailors. Outsiders to a tradition might want to educate themselves as to what a genre is about before deciding to parody it. There are reasons why such people such as Neville, Rodney, and me sing the songs we do. Ask. Third, please don't compare deaths of people to deaths of pets. I've lost pets that I loved and people that I loved It's not the same. (To any childless people reading this: when a parent has lost a child, they don't want to hear how you felt when your cat died.) Fourth, I'd like you to know what I was doing at five o'clock this morning. Lying in bed, thinking. Thinking about things like: how my mother, home with four children, must have felt when my father called from the mine to assure her that he wasn't one of the men killed; what it was like for her to watch her husband heading off to work in the Pugwash mine as people were searching for survivors of the latest Springhill Mine Disaster, forty miles away; what it was like for my cousin and his family when the Draeger crews from the Donkin mine, where he worked underground, were rushing off to Westray to rescue trapped miners; how the people of Gabarus must have felt when pieces of the Charles Valentine started floating ashore, and they realized that the loud sound they'd heard hours before wasn't thunder, but a ship exploding, a ship crewed by local men and coincidentally passing the coast where they lived; what life must have been like for my grandmother after her father and her mother's brother died in a fishing accident -- her father was one of seven brothers, only one of whom died in bed, five were lost at sea (a couple aboard The Valentine), and one died in the woods. My grandmother and one of her six sisters, orphans, then survived as child domestics in Boston. I'll quit here, but I assure you, I'm just getting started. That's what life and death are like in coastal and mining communities. There's a reason why these ballads exist. By the way, no straightforward disaster song, meant to comfort survivors, ever kept me awake at night. I know that neither you nor your friend Brooke was trying to make anyone feel miserable, but that doesn't always excuse insensitivity. I'm trying to educate you, not make you feel guilty. As you choose, you can learn something about both folk song and the inappropriateness of undifferentiated humour in a public forum, or you can decide that you're right and the feelings of people affected by tragedies from which you are far removed are of no importance to you. Ranald > From: jpolowin at hotmail.com > To: song-circle at lists.ifdo.pugmarks.com > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:36:18 +0000 > Subject: Re: [song-circle] "The Wreck of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster" > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > Ranald wrote: > > > Joel=2C thanks for the song about "The Wreck of the Crash of the > > Easthill Mining Disaster". There's nothing like a satirical song > > that includes both sailing and mining disasters to give a belly > > laugh to someone like me=2C from a small community (near Springhill=2C > > in fact)=2C many of whose men were miners or fishermen. To make it > > even more humorous=2C I lost a number of my own relatives at sea=2C > > and=2C although my uncles and cousin survived the mines=2C some of > > their friends died below ground. My cousin=2C slightly older than > > me and retired=2C is now dying from cancer caused by conditions in > > the mines=2C and since cancer made it into the song too=2C he should > > really enjoy "The Wreck." > > > > When we get together=2C there's nothing my family likes more than > > laughing at the heartfelt songs about disasters=2C made by the loved > > ones of the dead and still sung in communities where these disasters > > took place. These songs are especially funny when they're real "folk > > songs=2C" composed by uneducated rural people without the benefit of > > a university education. Yeah=2C nothing we like more than an urban > > folkie getting a laugh at our sorrow. By the way=2C I have a tape of > > songs made by my Newfoundland-outport friends Jean and Michelle after > > their father and brother died while fishing. Dealing with the emotions > > surrounding this tragedy started Jeannie writing songs. Perhaps I > > could send a copy to your friend Brooke to give her further fodder > > for her wit. > > Ranald=2C dark humour comes from many places.=A0 I don't know what > inspired Brooke to write that song.=A0 You snark about her being an > "urban folkie"=2C and yes=2C she's currently living in Vancouver=2C but I > don't know where she grew up.=A0 As for comparing her university > education to the "uneducated people"... what does that have to do > with anything? > > Eric Bogle has written a number of moving serious songs.=A0 He's also > written things like "Nobody's Moggy Now"=2C an elegy to a dead cat > that was hit by a truck and which he found by the side of the road. > Some people enjoy that song immensely=3B others -- particularly those > who've lost pets themselves in that way -- can't stand it.=A0 But most > of the latter don't say that he shouldn't have written it or that > it shouldn't be sung.=A0 They avoid listening to it.=A0 Some will leave > the room temporarily if someone starts singing it.=A0 But they accept > that for others=2C who do not have such a personal connection with the > subject=2C the song is fun. > > I think it's likely that Brooke's song was a reaction to her hearing > a long series of serious disaster songs in a song circle somewhere=2C > with nobody able to break the mood=3B that would have suggested the > grotesque concatenation of events.=A0 As I said=2C I don't know.=A0 I am > quite certain that it wasn't intended to poke fun at people who've > suffered from such events. > > =20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Eligible CDN College & University students can upgrade to Windows 7 before = > Jan 3 for only $39.99. Upgrade now! > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=3D9691819= > > _______________________________________________ > song-circle mailing list > song-circle at lists.ifdo.ca > http://ifdo.pugmarks.com/mailman/listinfo/song-circle From wendy.marshall at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 13:50:38 2009 From: wendy.marshall at gmail.com (Wendy Marshall) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:50:38 -0500 Subject: [song-circle] mailing list Message-ID: <910003980911101050i3fcb8d7bq15cc8381ccba6121@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have been receiving Song Circle emails for some time now, as I thought I may get to joining you at some point. Unfortunately, it's not happening. I'll have to just keep singing in the shower for now. Please take me off the list. All the best to your group. Sincerely, Wendy From neville.miller032 at sympatico.ca Fri Nov 13 08:10:15 2009 From: neville.miller032 at sympatico.ca (Neville Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:10:15 +0000 Subject: [song-circle] Reminder - Enoch Kent Concert Message-ID: Just a quick friendly reminder that tomorrow night, Saturday Nov 14 at 7:30 pm I'm hosting an evening with Enoch Kent at the Old Town Hall, 61 Main St. Ottawa. Tickets are $15 in advance (by contacting me today at 613 830 4450) or $18 at the door. Enoch is a fine singer of traditional songs from his native Scotland. Thanks, Neville From songadmin at canoemail.com Sun Nov 15 10:41:45 2009 From: songadmin at canoemail.com (songadmin at canoemail.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:41:45 -0800 Subject: [song-circle] Schedule Update Message-ID: <51B145D00972435FB6D2B97D2DD6DBBB@mail2world.com> Hi Everybody The schedule now is: Nov 20 available Dec 4 Eleanor Glor Dec 18 Dale & Susan Morland 2010 Jan 8 available Jan 22 available Cheers Dale From jpolowin at hotmail.com Sun Nov 15 11:05:14 2009 From: jpolowin at hotmail.com (Joel Polowin) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:05:14 +0000 Subject: [song-circle] "The Wreck of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster" In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: All:? I'm sorry that when I posted the link to "The Wreck of the Crash of the Easthill Mining Disaster", I didn't clearly state that it was satirical.? I apologize to those who were offended by the song; that was not at all what I intended, of course. Joel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on Facebook. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691816 From songadmin at canoemail.com Mon Nov 16 13:04:27 2009 From: songadmin at canoemail.com (songadmin at canoemail.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:04:27 -0800 Subject: [song-circle] Nov 20 Jackie Huston Message-ID: <4aded01ca66e7$3cbda320$086a010a@mail2world.com> Hi everybody Song Circle Friday November 20 at the home of Jackie Huston at 297 Duncairn Avenue. 613-722-8261. 6:30 for potluck and 7:30 for singing. The following directions are a direct quote from her last notice: Directions: Duncairn Avenue is a small street, one block long, between Churchill and Tweedsmuir, one block north of Dovercourt and about 6 blocks north of Carling. Coming from the east and downtown, take the Queensway west to the Carling exit, take Carling Avenue to Churchill, turn right onto Churchill, go about 6 blocks and then turn right onto Duncairn, one block past the traffic lights at Dovercourt. The house is about 1/2 way down the block. OR take Richmond Road west to Churchill, turn left on Churchill and go about 6-7 blocks and turn left on Duncairn. (one block before the traffic lights at Dovercourt) Coming from the west, take the Queensway west to the Carling exit, move over 4 lanes and turn left at Kirkwood and turn left onto Carling Avenue heading west. Go to Churchill, turn right down Churchill, go about 6 blocks and turn right onto Duncairn, one block past the traffic lights at Dovercourt. The house is about 1/2 way down the block. OR take Carling Avenue east to Churchill, turn left on Churchill and go about 6 blocks and turn right on Duncairn, one block past the traffic lights at Dovercourt. The house is about 1/2 way down the block. The following link shows a Mapquest map of my home http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Ottawa&state=ON&address=297+Duncairn+A venue Bus Information: From songadmin at canoemail.com Wed Nov 18 08:34:41 2009 From: songadmin at canoemail.com (songadmin at canoemail.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:34:41 -0800 Subject: [song-circle] Schedule Update and Nov 20 Circle Jackie Huston Message-ID: <15d9201ca6853$e1e73240$086a010a@mail2world.com> Hi everybody This notice is made primarily to advertise a schedule update, but I included the notice for this Friday's Circle also. Song Circle Friday November 20 at the home of Jackie Huston at 297 Duncairn Avenue. 613-722-8261. 6:30 for potluck and 7:30 for singing. The following directions are a direct quote from her last notice: Directions: Duncairn Avenue is a small street, one block long, between Churchill and Tweedsmuir, one block north of Dovercourt and about 6 blocks north of Carling. Coming from the east and downtown, take the Queensway west to the Carling exit, take Carling Avenue to Churchill, turn right onto Churchill, go about 6 blocks and then turn right onto Duncairn, one block past the traffic lights at Dovercourt. The house is about 1/2 way down the block. OR take Richmond Road west to Churchill, turn left on Churchill and go about 6-7 blocks and turn left on Duncairn. (one block before the traffic lights at Dovercourt) Coming from the west, take the Queensway west to the Carling exit, move over 4 lanes and turn left at Kirkwood and turn left onto Carling Avenue heading west. Go to Churchill, turn right down Churchill, go about 6 blocks and turn right onto Duncairn, one block past the traffic lights at Dovercourt. The house is about 1/2 way down the block. OR take Carling Avenue east to Churchill, turn left on Churchill and go about 6 blocks and turn right on Duncairn, one block past the traffic lights at Dovercourt. The house is about 1/2 way down the block. The following link shows a Mapquest map of my home http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Ottawa&state=ON&address=297+Duncairn+A venue Bus Information: From songadmin at canoemail.com Thu Nov 19 08:06:26 2009 From: songadmin at canoemail.com (songadmin at canoemail.com) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:06:26 -0800 Subject: [song-circle] Schedule Update and Nov 20 Circle Jackie Huston Message-ID: <2cd801ca6919$19ccc6f0$086a010a@mail2world.com> Hi everybody This notice is made primarily to advertise another schedule update and a bus route number correction, but I included the notice for this Friday's Circle also. Song Circle Friday November 20 at the home of Jackie Huston at 297 Duncairn Avenue. 613-722-8261. 6:30 for potluck and 7:30 for singing. The following directions are a direct quote from her last notice: Directions: Duncairn Avenue is a small street, one block long, between Churchill and Tweedsmuir, one block north of Dovercourt and about 6 blocks north of Carling. Coming from the east and downtown, take the Queensway west to the Carling exit, take Carling Avenue to Churchill, turn right onto Churchill, go about 6 blocks and then turn right onto Duncairn, one block past the traffic lights at Dovercourt. The house is about 1/2 way down the block. OR take Richmond Road west to Churchill, turn left on Churchill and go about 6-7 blocks and turn left on Duncairn. (one block before the traffic lights at Dovercourt) Coming from the west, take the Queensway west to the Carling exit, move over 4 lanes and turn left at Kirkwood and turn left onto Carling Avenue heading west. Go to Churchill, turn right down Churchill, go about 6 blocks and turn right onto Duncairn, one block past the traffic lights at Dovercourt. The house is about 1/2 way down the block. OR take Carling Avenue east to Churchill, turn left on Churchill and go about 6 blocks and turn right on Duncairn, one block past the traffic lights at Dovercourt. The house is about 1/2 way down the block. The following link shows a Mapquest map of my home http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Ottawa&state=ON&address=297+Duncairn+A venue Bus Information: From songadmin at canoemail.com Sun Nov 29 17:07:28 2009 From: songadmin at canoemail.com (songadmin at canoemail.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:07:28 -0800 Subject: [song-circle] Dec 4 Eleanor Glor Message-ID: <2F43A9393CD94546A7EE5F888FE39FE2@mail2world.com> Hi Everybody Song Circle this Friday, Dec 4 at the home of Eleanor Glor, 1238 Castle Hill Cres. She has requested that people consider telling a story as an extra choice when their turn comes around. She will tell the story of her grandmother. Directions: Exit Queensway at Maitland, go South to Glenmount, turn left. Take first right, Castle Hill Cres. Glenmount is a light, about one kilometre from the Queensway. Watch for Glenmount on the East side of Maitland. If you get to Baseline, you have gone too far. 613-723-3199 As usual, pot luck at 6:30, sing and stories about 7:30. The schedule now is: Dec 4 Eleanor Glor Dec 18 Dale & Susan Morland 2010 Jan 8 Susan Wheat Jan 22 Maura Volante Feb 5 available Feb 19 available Cheers Dale